like it Edd- ( why double d anyway ?)
bay R.G., I must buy this kind of strategy , morag formal ra bitaw kaayo to inyo presentation sa question with "kuya"bobot he he and with jay - kinahanglan man ta ato magbarong Kong mag-answer... ug sakto si Edd, ang mga 'not so young' (mosanay ning terminology ni Cres da) or 'not so old' generation ,( pareho ra man siguro nang duha bay R.G. kay hairline ra man ang boundary nila ), gasigi pa ug papormahay, kay lalim bay - di god to tig- email atong panahuna nga mga gwapo pa to sila, he he .. . (apil ta ani nila bay R.G.?)
take a look at this - Luke 13:1-5
and the Words in 3 and 5- I tell you , no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.( NIV ni nga version bay R.G - ako ni hinulaman sa ako silingan, wa pa man makit-i ako Bible god )..
It's an action - reaction virtue caused by man, if one has to be prized with the ever worth of salvation. But such an act by man alone, points not to where salvation starts but where salvation begins.Unless we repent or as Edd would put it, acknowledgment of oneselve's helplessness, and humble ourselves before God - Salvation as an effect cannot have its due course.
Another thing bay R.G., the single phrase of REPENTANCE is highly encompassing , just like the LOVE OF GOD. It carries the acts , of Acceptance of the LORDSHIP OF JESUS CHRIST , of Control with one's action , Romans 8:9, 1Peter 1:13 -16, of Leading and Nurturing , as in the parable of man taking care of the vineyard, of Loving one another, the whole chapter of 1John, and many more. more and more... All these acts should not be competing with each other, as one could never precedes the other, but they are all put into one bigger sphere, and becomes the ultimate requisite of SALVATION.
Last thing bay R.G. , if you would ask me about the starting point of Salvation, be it the LOVE OF GOD THROUGH JESUS CHRIST could be my wisest response.
bay Venric
P.S.
palihug bi, ikaw may moderator, ingna nya to si Allan nga ayaw lang nang "Venric in concert" ang ngan sa amo reunion, diay lain ay, ug mura ug familiar nato ni nga grupo, "Ruby and Company" in concert.- bay R.G., lisod ning mga "not so young" or( "not so old?) kung moandar, like Allan he he he, kung baga mga mountain ni sila- kita ani bukol ra, ug sapawon tang duha, duha ka bukol ra gyod na.(dili mountain sa ocean ha , he he}
